City administrator Lisa Kuss says the booms returned last night with more intensity. I admire this lady for her calm and professional handling of this event. She should run for congress.
From this article here:
Kuss offered three reasons why there’s so little data on the Clintonville rumblings:
- The smaller the magnitude of a quake, the harder it is to find the activity picked up by monitors
- The farther the activity is from monitors, the less likely it is to be picked up
- The more outside noise and interference, such as Tuesday night’s strong winds, make it more difficult to detect the activity on the monitors
The USGS says these small quakes are harmless and will diminish over time and it has something to do with slow releasing earth stress.
Residents seem skeptical, this is from the article comments:
Last night’s was the loudest and strongest (I live on the north side of Clintonville) and this has a lot of people rattled, literally and figuratively. My own opinion is that the city officials are putting the budget before safety concerns.
It is speculated in many articles that the dry winter has caused a low water table. This causes gaps in the granite under Clintonville thus allowing rocks to settle.
AN ASIDE
I’m sure this has nothing to do with the booms but look at this article from 2009 here. It’s very interesting and apparently the future of things. The government has set up an experiment where they blast neutrinos (link to wiki definition here) under Wisconsin starting in Illinois and ending in Minnesota. It’s described as a sort of pitcher and catcher set up. The Minnesota end is 5,500 tons of solid iron in an abandoned mine. The other end is a Government lab outside Chicago. The article says they do “violent things with tiny particles.” They beam neutrinos across the state underground in a straight line.
Also of note is an experiment by the University of Rochester which has successfully transmitted a message through stone using a beam of neutrinos.
From the article here:
“Using neutrinos, it would be possible to communicate between any two points on Earth without using satellites or cables,” said Dan Stancil, professor of electrical and computer engineering at NC State.
Umm. If it has nothing to do with anything, why are you planting the seed of such a connection? There are enough people wildly speculating.
Seismic booming is fairly well documented. Making a completely unfounded relationship with an old news article about something that can not be rationally linked is really low.
Also, the lowered groundwater table has nothing to do with it, water levels maybe a hundred feet below normal whereas seismic effects are miles below ground.
PLEASE stop making wild guess and just randomly putting ideas out there. It is doing harm.
Why can’t I put ideas out there. People can make up their own minds. Are you saying people that read this blog are simple minded. Frankly I don’t believe this single 1.5 earthquake is causing those noises and neither do people in Clintonville but then I have no idea either. I know you debunk stuff on your website but you fail to ever put forth any ideas other than “official” explanations. I want conclusive evidence then I will call it case closed. Why do I get beat up more than the 1000s of over-the-top conspiracy websites out there.
“Frankly I don’t believe this single 1.5 earthquake is causing those noises and neither do people in Clintonville…”
That makes two of us. And why does it happen exclusively at night/early morning (solely in the hours of pitch darkness)? On the website ‘Democratic Underground,’ a poster named “midnight” had this to say about the lastest “booms”:
“I’m near Milwaukee and felt and heard one of the booms…”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002484143#post2
Unfortunately, they don’t offer any more explanation than that…and very well could have been mistaken. But, if true, that’s roughly 130+ miles away (I’m leaning towards them being mistaken, and/or that the events were unrelated).
While we all would like a “simple” explanation, I don’t think an adequate one has yet been offered.
As always, appreciate your efforts!
you get beat up more because you report on real things and you´re clearly not insane with paranoia (as 99.9% of conspiracy-end of the world sites are)
I agree with Bob..you get beat up because you are offering idea’s, possibilities and looking for rational explanations, unlike other sites which are mostly all ” oh its the trumpets of doom” “the aliens are coming” etc etc., which of course most rational, intelligent people know is rubbish. To be honest it does annoy me when people assume that we are all incapable of making up our own minds and conclusions and dissing this site as scare mongering..its totally the opposite!!
Ummm…is that idoubtit or iwanttocontroltheinternet?
Personally I find the information about the Minos beam experiment interesting. I mapped the route from Fermilab to the Soudan Mine State Park and the location of Clintonville and even Montello, a town about 80 miles south of there which is also experiencing booming. The neutrino beam is 6 ft across to start and spreads to “several miles” by the time it hits the target. At the mid-point, it is about 6 miles underground. That is about how deep USGS placed that 1.5 magnitude earthquake near Clintonville. However the beam spread would barely reach Montello, let alone Clintonville, if I have my information and mapping correct.
As far as the possibility of a concentrated beam of neutrinos initiating an explosion anywhere, I read that Fermilab filters the beam, removing most of the higher energy particles. There is modelling being done of neutrino-driven Supernova explosions, so at the right density of the right blend of particles under the right conditions, there might be dangers:
http://proceedings.aip.org/resource/2/apcpcs/1269/1/181_1?isAuthorized=no
I’d guess the dangers of rare events occurring due to colliding particles in the long line experiments would be where concentrations are densest which is at the detectors. The cause of this explosion at the receiving end of a long line experiment in Japan is not truly known:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1664447.stm
In Wisconsin, though, I’d say earthquakes are the culprit. I hope we aren’t in for another nasty one this year.
PLEASE continue your interesting posts. I enjoy them and your blog is a handy place to check for new about sound phenomena.
Thanks once again Jayman
Keep up the expanded data to examine the sequences of dates and places worldwide.
Does the Madrid fault line run through Clintonville ?
Or is God just angry with the Clintons – just a joke to the serious who scoff
Obviously there is a continued shift happening that give signs and symptons not yet fully understood.
This may be cosmic waves rolling in our solar system
Like cymatics
Let us not bury our heads in the sands
Face the facts of today…
Fact,logic and scientific understanding
Thx again for your time on this Jayman- very interesting
Paul
I’m the biggest science geek I know and without enough data available a solid conclusion can not be reached. I haven’t heard of any reports during the day of these booms, they may have happened but… Also what is the duration and frequency. I could speculate everything from earthquakes to hypersonic expermental aircraft. No here is where ill lose everyone… To make a statement refering to the anger of God as a joke saddens me. I believe in God and yes he created everything including the laws of physics we use in modern life. Just because I know the physical process does not mean God is not in control. A better way toi explain is if I exist outside time and space seeing everything at once I can make changes at any piont in time even the big bang to get a result billions of years later. Just because some people may not be educated in the same way we are does not mean they don’t see truth even if it does come off nuts at times. The real truth is far stranger then we comprehend.
I’m leaning towards the official explanation in this case. I’m down in Christchurch, NZ and we’ve had a couple of major quakes and thousands of aftershocks and this does sound like it fits the explanation. Shallow quakes can make quite a bit of noise without actually having that big a magnitude of shaking. So unless there’s a good reason why it isn’t seismic then I think this is 100% explained.
Also I think the Neutrino’s are completely irrelevant to the booms, the sun puts out huge amounts of them every second and they have less mass than a subatomic partial. Interesting science but is not going to have any effect on the surrounding area
Just curious, but is there any fracking in the area? Maybe settling of the shale has something to do with it.
I’m not sure but I think I read ana article saying it isn’t fracking. I thought that too.
Back in October 2011, we had a small magnitude quake around Williston, SC make a boom sound like thunder — there was no shaking, just a boom. At first I thought it was thunder because it was raining outside but I checked the weather radar and there were no storms at the time. It was also the same night that I had the big scare regarding these strange sky sounds not unlike Jayman’s experience with the Florida rumble video that I saw on Youtube that night because I was searching for a possible explanation. It left me with a sick feeling for at least a couple of weeks. Anyways, I do believe the official explanation is viable. I’ve also been following this site since it’s inception.
One thing that disturbs me about the earthquake explanation is that the people that heard the booms were pretty surprised to hear them when most Wisconsin residents, especially in small towns like Clintonville and Montelllo, have lived there all their lives. They were concerned enough to assemble in a town hall meeting just to discuss the booms because it was so out of the norm for them, yet they still don’t know the actual cause…and the booms are still happening! That would concern me.
I have personally spent a lot of time about 25 miles from Montello and never heard a boom, other than cracking lake ice which is normal in the winter. But I have heard 30 minute sky roars during the daytime in the summer but was unable to see any jets associated with these sounds, and this area is not a jet flight lane. It’s usually extremely peaceful and eerily quiet around there.
Keep up the great work Jayman and don’t get discouraged by a few. You’re doing a very even-handed job bringing these occurrences to light!
I’m inclined not tok believe the EQ theory. The USGS website has thousands of quakes of nearly every magnitude on their site, yet I haven’t seen (maybe I haven’t looked hard enough) evidence of a quake in WI on their site.
The neutrino theory is a good one. Maybe if they sent neutrinos from chicago back to MN, then there’d be booms there too. The thing is, no one knows what the side effects of this neutrino tech is. Why rule it out?
Are these booms related to the large hardon collider. As the higher energie experiments continue at the collider, maybe causing micro black holes that sink to the center of the earth, and out the other side of the earth near Wisconsin causing earthquakes with a loud boom. This would be like black hole dudes that cause earthquakes with booms that are getting louder as the experiments become more powerful.
There is also the possibility that these black hole dudes may become realized in the destructon of the earth turning our sun, and solar system into a black hole.